Navigating Between Rocks and Hard Places

Navigating Between Rocks and Hard Places

Master’s Musings, July 2023

Navigating Between Rocks and Hard Places

 
Steven Forrest
We’re proud of what we’ve created here at the FCEA in the four years since we first conceived it back in March 2019. We’re also delighted by the expressions of support, enthusiasm, and appreciation we often hear from our students and Community Members. New businesses are famously shaky and many of them quickly fail. Not us! All in all, we’re doing OK and that’s thanks to all of you.
Naturally we hear grumbles from time to time. Keep them coming! We’re good, but we know we can get better and that’s our aim. Your feedback is helpful, even if we can’t always make everything fit everyone’s individual needs.
Sometimes “grumbles” isn’t the right word either – we also get lots of minor corrections and they’re always welcome. For one example, just this week a perspicacious student noticed that I’d made a typo in my handout about the discovery date of Eris. I had it down as January 25, 2005 when it was actually January 5 – obviously that mistake was not the end of the world, but it’s good to make things right! We fixed it right away. Someone else once pointed out an error in a birth time for one of our teaching charts – I can’t even remember which one, but we fixed that too. There have been a few more instances of little goofs on that kind of scale – not earth-shaking, but still important – and we wouldn’t have known about them without your help and sharp eyes, so thanks!
With the FCEA curriculum materials we can quickly fix things, but in my life as an author, I’ve had a futile ambition all along – it’s that someday I would publish a book without any typos at all. Still, even with a  dozen eyes, including my own, combing through the pages, that’s never happened. And once a book is in print, it’s graven in stone unless and until there’s a new edition. We can at least include a note about those kinds of errata in Moodle. We’ve done that – the bad charts for Duke Ellington and Billy Strayhorn in Skymates II come to mind.
In pursuit of ways that we can possibly improve, a few of our tutors have let me know about some frustrations they’re hearing from students. Four of these issues have come up with some consistency and I want to touch on them here. Two of them are biggies and two are fair to call “small potatoes.” I should say right away that none of them are completely fixable, at least in the present circumstances of the school. Mostly here I simply want to say “we hear you” and to take the opportunity to explain our position. One aim we’ll always have here in the FCEA is to be as transparent with everyone as we possibly can be.
 
FACE TIME
 
By far, the issue that comes up most often is the desire for more “live” interaction with the tutors and with myself. I have a lot to say about that, starting with a simple agreement: almost everyone agrees that more live interaction would be great! 
Let me first speak about the tutors, then I’ll speak about myself.
Our tutors are paid by the hour – not enough, not what they’re worth, but they are paid!.And there’s a lot of them and that gets expensive. Those hours mount up. The FCEA has no outside source of funding – even the loan Jeff Parrett gave us to start the school is being paid back with interest. You probably see where this is going. Financially, the school is usually “in the black,” but not by much. To afford more tutor hours, we’d have to raise our tuition rates. No one – including us – wants to do that.
Speaking for myself, I really do enjoy the many Zoom Q&A sessions we do. I like teaching. Beyond those, this (northern) autumn, we’ll finally reach FCEA 306 – that’s a course where I’ll be teaching “live” via Zoom in a small-class context. I look forward to that! Let me also add that  at the 300-level, students are advanced enough to begin working together with a tutor and their peers in live Zoom classes every week. Even better for many of you, we just started our 101Z and 102Z labs. They’re led by tutors on Zoom and students get live interaction every week there too.
One of my personal goals in framing the FCEA was for me to be able to do more teaching at a “master class” level. I felt that doing that would be a better use of my time than teaching the basics over and over again – hence the reason behind all the videos and handouts I’ve made for our curriculum, not to mention all my books. Those are where I teach the basics – although our Q&A sessions are actually often that too. And even there, we’re building our indexed reference library, which is also gradually becoming another resource in our basic curriculum. But a real motivator for me is to be able to teach at a higher level. As the first wave of FCEA students reaches the 306 level in a few months, we’ll finally arrive at that point.
There’s one more thing that’s sort of tangentially related – we’ll soon be implementing a platform called Circle (www.Circle.so). I honestly don’t know much about it yet, but we’re hoping it will facilitate an easier and more lively kind of social interaction among us.
Speaking of face-to-face interaction, let me add that it was a joy to finally meet some of you in person at the big ISAR conference in Denver last August and also at the NORWAC conference in Seattle just a few weeks ago. My upcoming event this August at Omega Institute in New York is promising to be a big one – last I heard, 107 people have signed up! I know many FCEA students are among them. (If you’re interested in possibly attending, here’s the link: https://www.eomega.org/search?query=Steven+Forrest). 
Then there’s Astro-Bash (https://www.astro-bash.com) starting on September 28th. Ralph MacIntrye, a former student in my old Apprenticeship Programs who happens to live in the same desert town as me, has put together a broad group of evolutionary astrologers as speakers. Our Dean, Catie, will be among them. I’ll do a keynote. Getting to Borrego Springs is not the easiest thing in the world, but for me it’s home sweet home. Maybe some of you can come too.
I’m writing about these in-person events because they’re part of how I want to address the whole question of more live teaching and “face time.” By the way, as I write these words, I’m aware of how unfair much of this must sound to our students who live in other countries. I’m sorry about that, but at least these events do provide another option for face-to-face work, at least for some of you. We still hope to create an actual FCEA conference at some point, but frankly we’re all just too busy running things day-to-day to even think much about it at this point.
Let me briefly belabor another obvious issue for a moment – like the rest of you, I have to make a living and there are only so many hours in the day. Most of how I support myself comes from work outside our school. That does put some constraints on my time. That’s of course true as well for our tutors, teachers, and staff.
 
THE CLONE WARS
 
There’s a second issue that’s come up from time to time. Let’s call it “the Clone Wars.” So, is the purpose of the FCEA to crank out dozens and dozens of robotic Steven Forrest clones? In response, I’d start by softening that language a bit, but basically let me admit that, yes, in a sense, that’s exactly what we’re doing. I don’t want to pretend otherwise. 
There’s something terribly unsettling about that kind of language! Cloning? What about respect for your own individualities? What about that core principle of any healthy kind of astrology, which is respect for human diversity?
Here’s our reasoning. Astrology is a wide world. I’ve often felt sorry for enthusiastic beginners attending their first astrology conference. If they listen to ten lectures, they’ll probably hear ten different takes on astrology. Many involve perspectives that would be very difficult to reconcile with each other, both practically and philosophically. There are helpful, impressive astrologers practicing in the Vedic traditions, along with many fine Hellenists, Uranians, and Cosmobiologists. There are good psychological astrologers – and in the FCEA we’re pretty close to them, but we’re not the same. Even in the mainstream forms of modern astrological practice, you have a dozen systems of house division to choose among. Should we use the Vertex? What about the Part of Fortune? What about planetary midpoints? What about harmonics? Black Moon Lilith anyone?
Again, I pity beginners as they try to pick their way through this whole smorgasbord of astrological possibilities. They often feel that to become good astrologers they need to understand it all. But no one can understand it all! There’s just too much. And on top of it, no client anywhere would have the patience, time, or attention span to listen to a session that applied all of those techniques at once.
My personal North Star has always been aimed at meeting the needs of those clients. Over the years, sitting with many, many thousands of them, I’ve honed my arsenal of techniques down to the few that have consistently seemed to work the best, at least for me and my clients. I’ve also only pursued techniques that answer the kinds of questions that I personally find most compelling – basically the ones around how our psychological processes relate to the growth of our souls. I find it more exciting to wrestle with those particular angels and devils than to try to pick the stock whose value is about to rise or the candidate who’s most likely to win the election.
The distillation of all that I have learned – and unlearned, and forgotten, and discarded – is the Steven Forrest Method. And that efficient, accurate, stripped-down package is what we teach in the FCEA. That’s what we’re “cloning.” The point is not that we reject all the other traditions and techniques – the point is that we want to chart the most efficient course from A to Z for our students, where A is a blank slate and Z is the ability to sit down confidently with an astrologically naive client and actually know what words to say. So we teach one method – again, call it “cloning me” if you want – and if you want to explore other methods, go for it! Just please do it outside the framework of our school. 
Learning this FCEA methodology is, as you know, a serious commitment. Even stripped down like this, it still takes three or four years of hard work to get on top of it enough to reach a professional level of competence. It’s sort of like going to medical school. The bottom line is that in the FCEA, our aim is to get everyone to “Z” as efficiently as possible, so we limit our attention to specific practices, while we discourage anyone from muddying the waters for the other students by wondering about what this chart would say in Porphyry houses or in Whole Sign House format. That’s not because those systems are wrong, but rather because they’re confusing to anyone who’s trying to keep their eyes on the prize as we’ve defined it. 
Once you’ve learned the Steven Forrest Method, you can take it anywhere you want. In fact, even now as active students in our school, if you want to check out other approaches or other teachers, go for it – just please support the other students by staying focused on our core curriculum.
There are a couple more areas where a few concerns have been expressed. They’re both comparatively minor, but I’d like to clear the air about them as best I can.
 
INCONSISTENCIES ABOUT ASPECT ORBS
 
I’ll own it! In the videos and handouts that comprise the FCEA curriculum, sometimes you see me suggesting an orb of 2.5 degrees for a certain aspect, then elsewhere I might suggest 5 degrees. I’m all over the map about orbs and I admit it’s probably confusing. 
Some of that is simply my own inconsistency – and that’s further exacerbated by the fact that, for example, The Inner Sky and The Changing Sky both date back to the 1980s, while much school material is practically current by comparison. So you’re looking at over three decades of my own learning curve. As an evolutionary astrologer, I am proud to say that I am not “the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow!”
There’s a deeper issue. Universally, astrologers of all schools use wider aspectual orbs for the Sun than they do for Neptune. But what if that Neptune is in Pisces or on the Ascendant? Then maybe we stretch the orbs a bit further because the planet is a little stronger in that particular chart. What if a planet is in its own sign? What if it rules the Ascendant? What if two planets in a wide hard aspect to each other are also in mutual reception? That softens their tension. Do we still get any benefit from thinking of them as “in opposition?”
It goes further – what if we have a planet in the first degree of Aries and one in the last degree of Gemini? Geometrically, that’s a tight square – but the basic harmony of Aries and Gemini makes itself felt too. Clearly that square isn’t quite the same as one between Aries and Cancer. Now widen the angle between them a bit – at what point do you stop thinking of it as a square? It’s hard to be rigid about any of this, but clearly in practice that Aries/Gemini square would break down sooner than an Aries/Cancer one.
The point is that, beyond the exact geometrical angle between the planets, orbs are influenced by many factors. For that reason, only a (hilariously) inexperienced astrologer would formally pronounce that “the proper orb for sextiles is five degrees – not four, and not not six.” 
The inconsistencies you’ll encounter about aspect orbs through the FCEA curriculum materials fall somewhere between a happy mistake and a bit of a “time capsule” study of my own evolution as an astrologer over the years. Personally, I’m actually glad they are there – that’s because if I were consistent about them you might start to think that they were consistent themselves. They’re not!
 
REPEATING CHARTS
 
The further into your FCEA studies you go, the more charts you will see. Catie and I are really happy with the diverse spectrum of “case studies” the school presents. We’ve got mostly famous people, a few made-up charts, and the occasional client example – that, plus tons of “mystery charts,” which are mostly famous people supplied with false names. 
Basically, the more charts you look at, the smarter you get. That’s why, as an FCEA student, you’re subjected to such a flood of them. The only limit we’ve set is that we’ve mostly steered away from very contemporary examples, mostly because “the verdict isn’t in on them yet.” I’m profoundly grateful, for example, that when I was writing The Inner Sky in the early 1980s, I used John Lennon for my example. Imagine the mess I’d have been in today if I had used Bill Cosby – or that bon vivant and then-rising star of commercial New York real estate, Donald Trump. When it comes to analyzing a life, it’s often helpful to have the whole story.

One or two students have grumbled about seeing a particular chart used more than once. Why not switch to someone new? I believe the issue was around the chart of Muhammed Ali, although I believe Lily Tomlin comes up more than once in the curriculum as well, and there are others – Amy Tan and Jane Goodall, for example. They mostly occur at the 100-level where students are first building their confidence and we think a longer look at a single chart is probably most beneficial to them.
Our reasoning here is actually very simple, at least with Muhammed Ali. To understand anyone in the context of transits, progressions, and solar arcs – or for that matter, in a synastry framework, it is essential to understand the core birthchart. As you know, analyzing a birthchart is a big undertaking. It requires time. For that reason, Catie and I just decided that it made sense to introduce Muhammed Ali’s natal chart in the FCEA 100 courses, and then to build efficiently on that foundation when we got to the FCEA 202 Practicum and it was time to look at his transits. Why redo 101 material with a new person when we were ready to work with transits and progressions and everyone already had a strong foundation with Muhammed Ali?
In general, don’t worry – in our school, you won’t often see the same chart used more than once!
Those are the four areas I wanted to address in this newsletter. Once again, we always welcome constructive criticism and helpful suggestions, so please keep them coming. We won’t be able to make you happy every time, but we’ll do our best. 
Even better, do let us know when you’re simply feeling good about the school. Running it is a lot of hard work and positive feedback is what keeps us going, so thanks for that too!
 
Steven Forrest
July 2023

Dignity, Debility, Exaltation and Fall

Dignity, Debility, Exaltation and Fall

Master’s Musings, June 2023

Dignity, Debility, Exaltation and Fall

 
Steven Forrest
In our Member Call on May 11, Cliff Passen asked a good question, but time ran out and we never got to it. Here it is: Considerations of Dignity, Debility, Exaltation and Fall seem not to have made the cut in FCEA. Could you please speak about the decision not to include these perspectives?
Thanks, Cliff – this issue is important enough that I want to dedicate this newsletter to responding to it. Before I dive in, I do want to express gratitude to everyone who submitted questions for that call. We had quite a lot of them this time, and they were all interesting. I knew that one hour was not going to be long enough to get through them all. We’ll save many – but not all – of them for next time. Always our aim is to use our Zoom time in a way that seems to be of most benefit to the greatest number of students and members. The least general benefit comes from questions that basically involve “putting a chart up on the screen” – except doing it by listing most of its configurations verbally. That kind of litany is hard for audience members to follow – it’s hard for me too! (But I’m lucky – I get to see all the questions in advance. I actually make a little sketch of the chart so I can follow.)  Deep chart analysis is what our “Chart Winner” segment is for – and we’ll always do an actual chart analysis as the second part of these online sessions.
Bottom line: I won’t say that we’ll never accept questions like those personal, chart-specific ones again, but they’ll generally have a lower priority. Much will depend on how many questions get submitted. Asking about a specific configuration is fine – for example, “please talk about my Venus in the 3rd house opposite Saturn.” That’s short enough that everyone can digest it in “spoken word” format.
Onward to Cliff’s question.
He wonders about our decision not to include dignity, debility, exaltation and fall in the FCEA curriculum. Let me begin with a minor quibble – the reality is that we do include them, at least  functionally. What we exclude is that specific language. The reality is that each planet is naturally more comfortable with certain signs, while feeling less comfortable with others. We acknowledge that fact, and that’s basically what those four words that Cliff mentioned are all about.
Here’s the heart of the matter. The focus of our school is the development of “clinical” skills – we’re all about astrological counseling, in other words. Succeeding there of course depends on mastering astrological theory – but theoretical knowledge alone does not make a person an astrological counselor. We also have to think about how we present astrology to our clients, most of whom are not versed in the technicalities. That means that we always have to think carefully about the impact of our words. Maintaining rapport with the client is mission-critical.
Imagine I’m a first-time client and I know nothing about astrology. I hear that my Venus is “in detriment” or that my Jupiter is “in the sign of its fall.” How do those words land on my ears? Not well! The word “debility” is perhaps the most dangerous one of all – even if we don’t exactly say “your chart suffers from many debilities,” that is the baleful news that the client is likely to hear.
You can probably already see where this is going. Clearly, detriment, fall, and debility are not words that leave people feeling encouraged. They imply that there is something wrong with their chart, and by extension, that there is something fundamentally wrong – or simply doomed – with them. Those are not feelings that we want to trigger in our clients! The language itself is damaging. Perhaps worse, it is also simply incorrect. Everyone’s chart is perfect – they all fit the needs and conditions of the soul like the proverbial glove. 

 

 
Technical astrologers having a technical discussion out of earshot of any clients can use words like dignity, debility, exaltation and fall as an effective shorthand in their conversations with each other – no problem there, so long as those astrologers know what they’re talking about. The trouble is that often they don’t. Astrologers themselves have often fallen prey to the misleading implications of those words, imagining for one example that it’s “bad” to have Mars in Libra – the sign of its detriment.
Let’s think specifically about Mars in Libra as a way of approaching the general heart of the matter. That Mars “rules” Aries makes perfect sense – their natures are very similar. That’s why traditional astrologers say that Mars is “dignified” in that sign. But Mars in Libra? No “dignity” there at all! Mars is the god of war and Libra is about peace, reconciliation, tolerance, and seeing the other person’s point of view. Clearly poor Mars is confused and “debilitated” when we invite it to learn those kinds of lessons – it’s like asking a lion to be a vegetarian. But ask yourself: is learning those kinds of lessons actually bad for Mars? Or might the god of war benefit from a little dose of peace, love, and understanding?
Truly understanding fall and detriment really hinges on those kinds of questions. Paradox, ambiguity, and complexity are not “debilitated” conditions – they’re just tricky to think about.
 
 
Can we ever fight for peace? Think about John Lennon, with his Mars in Libra. In the back of my head, I’m hearing him militantly leading the chorus in the anti-war song Give Peace A Chance.
Mars also rules Scorpio and thus is said to be in “detriment” in Taurus, the opposite sign. Both Libra and Taurus are ruled by Venus, so peace is quite fundamental to our understanding of the evolutionary aims of both signs. So once again, can we fight for peace? Ask that famous “peacenik,” Thich Nhat Han – he had Mars in Taurus, and more than a thing or two in common with John Lennon.
Planets in detriment or fall are learning to deal with paradoxes. There is something intellectually sophisticated about them, something full of nuances and subtleties. Meanwhile, it’s important to remember that the straight ahead quality of Mars in Aries is not automatically a good thing – it can potentially be violent, intolerant, and crude. Why? Because, unlike planets in detriment or fall, it lacks any reflective perspective on itself. 
I don’t want to make it sound as if a planet being in the sign it rules is a bad thing! Or that fall and detriment are automatically good. Nothing in astrology works that way. Everything comes down to understanding the evolutionary lessons implicit in the configuration and getting those ideas across to the client in a cogent, convincing, and encouraging way.
In our FCEA course work, the specific idea of rulership actually does come up frequently. We tend not to label it a “dignity,” but otherwise it’s pretty much everywhere in our work. We put great emphasis on the planet that rules the Ascendant, for one example. As any of you who’ve been through FCEA 102 know, we simply could not do evolutionary astrology without recognizing the power of the planet or planets that rule the sign of the lunar south node.
Rulership basically means resonance – and astrology hums because of the way Mars and Aries are always energetically linked in a chart no matter what their specific configurations may be. Ditto of course for Mercury and Gemini, Jupiter and Sagittarius, and so on. From the counseling perspective, I would also add that a client hearing that “Neptune rules your chart” is not likely to be frightened or damaged by those words. That sentence simply does not carry the same linguistic baggage that comes with telling a client that his or her Saturn is in detriment or fall.
By not using the words “fall” and “detriment” in our FCEA courses, we bypass the pitfall of having them creep into the language we use with our clients – or sneaking into our own heads with that judgmental tone.
Much of what I’ve written about here so far is really about rulership and detriment. What about exaltation and fall? Let me begin by directing you to chapter four of The Endless Sky: Planetary Exaltations; Planetary Falls. I delve deeply into the topic there. (Chapter three of that book, by the way, is about rulerships and detriment – it covers ground similar to what I’ve explored so far  with you here.)
Here are a few lines from chapter four of The Endless Sky:

 

“With exaltation, the situation is a bit more subtle. In essence, the sign has the effect of underscoring some specific potential strength in the planet – or similarly, of correcting one of its blind spots. The planet is therefore uplifted – “exalted,” if you will.”
 
For example, the Moon is said to be exalted in Taurus. What we see there is not quite the same as the straight tonal “unison” that exists between the Moon and Cancer. Rather, it’s the idea that Taurus resonates powerfully with our “animal instincts,” and so it strongly supports that particular instinctual dimension of the Moon – it “exalts” that part of the Moon’s range of positive potentials.

 

 
Meanwhile, Venus is exalted in Pisces – and so the spiritual and romantic qualities of human affection are underscored when Venus is in that sign.
Turn it around – a planet in the sign opposite its exaltation is said to be in fall. That means that the Moon is “in fall” in Scorpio – and that’s because we can tie ourselves in knots with too much “second-guessing, overthinking, and Scorpionic psychology,” and thus lose track of the “simple Taurean truth.” Meanwhile, Venus is “in fall” when it is in Virgo – and that’s because picky fault-finding doesn’t go well with romantic love.  
Let’s keep all of this honest though – a little psychological perspective on our gut feelings can be healthy, which means that the Moon doesn’t automatically become “bad” when it’s in Scorpio. A romantic bubble in which acknowledging a partner’s flaws becomes taboo doesn’t always contribute to long-term intimate happiness – so there’s real wisdom in Venus in Virgo. 
“Fall,” in other words, is no more an inherently bad thing than is “detriment.” Like detriment, it is ultimately about dealing with paradox and subtlety.
In my own practice, I don’t actually pay much attention to exaltation and fall. The effects are real enough, but for me they sort of disappear into the broader questions of figuring out the specifics of the dance that each planet does with each sign. Again, have a look at chapter four of The Endless Sky if you’d like to learn more about my take on that topic – it’s real, but it’s just not something that I have personally found useful.

 

 
Exaltation and fall are very much a part of traditional astrology and so the available interpretations tend to be steeped in the values of the past. Here’s a list of the traditional exaltations:
  • The Sun is exalted in Aries – and has its fall in Libra
  • The Moon is exalted in Taurus – and has its fall in Scorpio
  • Mercury is exalted in Virgo – and has its fall in Pisces
           (Note: this is the same as its rulership/detriment)
  • Venus is exalted in Pisces – and has its fall in Virgo
  • Mars is exalted in Capricorn – and has its fall in Cancer
  • Jupiter is exalted in Cancer – and has its fall in Capricorn
  • Saturn is exalted in Libra – and has its fall in Aries
Note the absence of Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto – that’s because, once again, these are ancient traditions, dating to a time before those planets were known. Modern traditionalists argue about whether those “new” planets should or should not be assigned exaltations and falls. Some say yes, some say no. Personally, I’ll just say that I don’t have a horse in that race.
Mercury being exalted in Virgo – the sign it also rules – does seem weird to me. Convincing arguments have been made for Mercury’s exaltation in Aquarius since Aquarius supports Mercury “thinking for itself.” I find that idea compelling – but lest I invoke the fury of the traditionalists, I’ll keep my mouth shut on that one too.
Back to Cliff’s question – for our purposes, in the FCEA we actually do use all of the basic concepts implicit in dignity, debility, exaltation and fall – we’ve just updated them, put them in evolutionary terms, and recognize that when it comes to dealing with clients, each of those words is a potential minefield of misunderstanding.
As ever, “first do no harm” is our guiding principle.
 
Steven Forrest
June 2023

 

Our Evolving FCEA Curriculum

Our Evolving FCEA Curriculum

Dean’s Update, June 2023

Our Evolving FCEA Curriculum

 
Catie Cadge
Greetings, FCEA community! During the long days of June, I have been working with Steven to put the final touches on a new course we are opening mid-month. FCEA 305: Chiron and Eris is the last 300-level class prior to the masters-level practicum. I have to admit it is a bittersweet moment for me as FCEA Dean. I have enjoyed working alongside Steven, slowly writing our curriculum, one course at a time. We started back in 2019, continued through the pandemic and then kept going, even as the FCEA was growing as a new school. It has been such an enriching experience for me.
There is something about the learning that takes place when writing class content that is hard to replace as a method for polishing one’s own skills as an astrologer. Now that most of the classes are written and the school is flourishing, I can look back and take stock of what we have created. I sincerely hope it provides a good, solid education in evolutionary astrology. We tried our best and I think we succeeded!
My ever-curious and inquisitive Gemini Moon recognizes the FCEA curricular projects may never quite end. Curriculum development is always on-going and certainly other topics will surface. But at least the main foundation of the FCEA masters program is now in place.
We end the 300-level in-depth focused study of the planets with little comet-like Chiron and mysterious, slow-moving Eris, just barely a newborn in our expanding concept of our solar system.
 
Expanded Image of the Solar System
Image by Pablo Carlos Budassi, Wikimedia Commons
 Why cover Chiron, the wounded healer, in the FCEA program, when so many asteroids compete for our attention? Steven argues Chiron’s popularity might be partly a product of current trends, but the little rock in the sky does seem to carry a punch. Personally, I feel we are always creating and expanding our astrological language, simply through our usage of the archetypes that then become part of our shared collective consciousness. We will them into being through our creative minds and hearts. Either way you look at it, Chiron is definitely a valid player and worthy of addition to our astrological toolboxes. 
Why not add Chariklo, the wife of Chiron in Greek mythology and a planetary object larger than Chiron? Many astrologers do add Chariklo to chart analysis. Nothing wrong with that. But we decided to focus upon what Steven’s experience merits our attention and study. And Steven and I wish our students all the best in doing their own investigations and research into what astrological frontiers lay ahead.
Here again I ask, will writing new classes and the growth in our curriculum ever stop? I don’t think so!
 
Some of you may recall Steven’s special solstice presentation last year addressing Eris and how best to wrestle with the planet’s presence as an archetype and by location in the birth chart. What could be the high road to take with the Goddess of strife and discord? Steven stresses the gifts of talent and innovation intense competition can bring. Eris adds a particular challenge in that all the charts we see in our practice have Eris in the fiery Mars-ruled sign of Aries. The planet won’t even get close to entering Taurus for over another twenty years. We tried to make some interesting “food for thought” by bringing in the chart of famous artist Pablo Picasso, born in 1881, years before Eris’ ingress into Aries. A little Eris in Pisces anyone? Eris is so new to our awareness. Much of our interpretation (for all of us) is a work in progress!
On a final note, I hope to see many of you at our community gathering on Zoom for this year’s solstice celebration and the start of Cancer season on June 21st at 5 pm Pacific time. Steven will talk with us about the nodal shift into Aries and Libra along with Pluto’s recent return to Capricorn. Please join us! Wishing everyone a joyful and blessed season and happy solstice to all.
 
Catie Cadge, PhD
June 2023
 
 

New “Z” Courses

New "Z" Courses

Dean’s Update, May 2023

New “Z” Courses — How We’re Bolstering Calm Amidst EA’s Complexity

 
Catie Cadge
A cheerful, chatty welcome to everyone this Gemini season! I’ve got some good news to share about a new course offering at the FCEA. But first, just a reminder. We are starting our official process of choosing scholarship recipients this summer. We have a limited number of awards. Competition will be steep, but we encourage all interested to apply. Jupiter is in Taurus now and maybe the planet is calling out to you to take a chance and submit an application. Trust your instincts! We will do our best to be fair and supportive. If you are interested in applying for a scholarship, please check our website under the Learn tab at the top of the main page and see the posted descriptions and instructions. The window for application submissions is June 15th through July 15th every year.
 
Moving on to the main topic I wish to focus upon, let’s think about Jupiter now in Taurus as a chance to calm down and find peace with the complexities of learning the many-faceted tool box of evolutionary astrology. I have a new class to introduce to hopefully help with this Taurean process!

 

 

First, a little history to explain how the class came about.

 

 
Last year, we started offering a basic level course in the fundamentals – the A, B, Cs – of our sacred craft. 101-Z was developed as a simple, live discussion class, entirely on Zoom, where students could ask questions and review any trouble spots in learning the very basic vocabulary of the birthchart. The beauty of 101-Z is class size is small, making the discussion about the material less intimidating and more personal. No exams, writing assignments nor forums. Just a chance to relax (think Jupiter in Taurus again!) and simply “be” with the primary parts of reading a chart. So far, the class has been a success! 101-Z is up and running several times a year and is available to any student currently enrolled at the 100-level. Now we hope to expand upon this curricular model with a brand new 201-Z.
 
One of the difficulties we face at the FCEA is making curriculum accessible to all types of learners. We realize some students come in already familiar with complex subjects, such as transits, progressions and solar arcs, while others are completely new. The newbies can feel overwhelmed and, at times, they may need a little more hand-holding and support for them to grasp the ins and outs of the methods we use in our advanced 200-level coursework. Once again, we turn to the Zoom classroom to provide a small-group environment where the very basics of calculating and working with the “current sky” can be simplified and made more “user friendly” for all. 
 
The tutors, Steven and I know that forum participation can be scary, especially if a student is less familiar with evolutionary astrology and the many ways we look at the evolving soul’s journey. We require participation in our online forums because the content is so rich and we need to see students are actively engaging in the material. We want to see you all are working hard to apply what you are learning. But we know forum discussions and writing assignments are not easy. We are a college and expect hard work and effort. It will pay off! However, we also understand that at times a class may seem challenging to the point of overwhelm or intimidation. Please let us help! Consider 201-Z. Open to any student in the 200-level courses, 201-Z is designed to fill in the gaps and lend a supportive “Zoom hand” and heart in the learning process. If this sounds like a good Jupiter fit for you, please join us!
 
Catie Cadge, PhD
May 2023
 
HOW TO REGISTER: The 101-Z and 201-Z courses ($199 for 6 to 8 weekly, 1-hour small-group tutoring sessions) will be added to our Course Catalog in June 2023. To join the “Z” Interest List, receive notice as soon as registration opens, and reserve your space in the next section, please email our Registrar: registrar@forrestastrology.center.
 
 


On Eclipse Season

The Nature of Eclipse Season

Master’s Musings, May 2023

The Nature of Eclipse Season

 
Steven Forrest
An “eclipse season” just passed and for some reason, the idea has been getting a lot of social media attention lately. The truth is that an eclipse season is actually a very common occurrence. Every half a year or so, you can draw a more-or-less straight line through the centers of the Earth, the Moon, and the Sun, with the Moon in the middle. When that happens, the Moon blocks out the Sun and – voila – we have a total solar eclipse visible somewhere on the Earth.
The Moon is small and relatively far away, so the shadow it casts on Earth is small too, and it races across the map as Earth rotates. That’s why, in order to see a solar eclipse, you probably have to travel – not to mention, pray for clear skies.

 

Solar Eclipse

The Moon orbits Earth of course, and so, like clockwork, about two weeks after a solar eclipse, the alignment repeats, except with the order changed – now it’s Moon, Earth, Sun, with Earth in the middle this time. When that happens, Earth’s huge shadow covers the Moon and we have a lunar eclipse – and unlike solar eclipses, they are visible to anyone living on the side of the Earth that happens to be facing the Moon at the time.
 

Lunar Eclipse

People think solar eclipses are rare, while lunar eclipses are common, but that’s only “sort of” true. The reality is that there’s about an equal number of each, but half the world can see every lunar eclipse while to see a solar eclipse, you have to travel to specific, often out-of-the-way places.
Such a lunar eclipse is always paired with a previous solar one. Those periods of potential alignments of Sun, Moon, and Earth last on average 34.5 days. That’s an “eclipse season” – and once again, it’s no big deal since it happens a couple of times each year.
By the way, another way to describe that “straight arrow” alignment of Earth, Moon, and Sun is to say that the Sun and Moon are aligned with the lunar nodes – remember, the nodes are where the Moon’s orbit lines up with the ecliptic, and the bottom line is that such a nodal alignment has got to be present for the sign positions plus the declinations of the Sun and Moon to line up – otherwise, we get a simple Sun-Moon conjunction or opposition, and nobody gets too excited about it. That’s just a garden-variety New Moon or Full Moon – and when it comes to eclipses, that means close but no banana.
 

In our Student Q & A Call on April 27, the question of eclipses came up and I shared something that to me is a big astrological mystery – I generally don’t respond to eclipses very strongly myself.

 
What makes that so mysterious is that many astrologers whose work I respect practically do back flips when they see an eclipse coming. I can’t say I’ve never felt them, but I’m just not sure how to explain my relative immunity to them. In all that I teach, I like to make sure that what I say is honestly rooted in my own direct experience – if it hasn’t been helpful to me, I don’t want to burden any of you with it either. So I’m of two minds about eclipses – inclined to take them seriously because of the general astrological consensus, but suspicious of overreacting to them since my own experience suggests that doing so would be misleading.
 

You’ll surely get questions about upcoming eclipses from friends and clients. I want to prepare you to answer confidently and helpfully.

 
Some of what I’ll write here is based on my own experience – and as I’ve mentioned, I do feel them, just not at the “decibel level” many astrologers would predict. Some of what follows is gleaned from the observations of other astrologers and some of it is based on my own experience.
 
 
 
 
Everybody knows that a total solar eclipse is a big deal. People travel at great expense across oceans just to stand for three or four minutes in that magical shadow that’s racing across the Earth. Meanwhile, everyone knows that a New Moon is commonplace – we get one of them each month. (That’s why we have months!) What a lot of people don’t understand is the thin line that separates a New Moon from a solar eclipse – each month the Sun and Moon line up, but with the Moon a little above the Sun or a little below it (declination!). And of course on top of everything, the Moon is completely washed out by blinding sunlight, so no one even notices it.
Spiritually, a New Moon is a powerful ritual time. The heart of the practice is to set intentions at “the Dark of the Moon” – and then, holding the faith, to expect them to come to fruition as the Moon waxes toward Full phase.
Probably any time we set an intention, we’ve invoked some holy mysteries – but if we do it at the New Moon, we’re aligning those intentions with the cosmic wind. A New Moon is, pretty obviously, a new beginning and all beginnings are energetically-impressionable times – that’s the heart of the matter metaphysically. And it works.
We might then think of a solar eclipse as a supercharged New Moon – a particularly terrific time for setting intentions, in other words. What supercharges it? We could speculate that the extra energy comes from the exact center-to-center alignment of Moon and Sun. There may be truth in that – but my personal guess as an evolutionary astrologer is that it has to do with something I mentioned a few paragraphs ago – at a solar eclipse, the lunar nodes are there too. That means there’s karma being activated (with all of its sandtraps) – plus we potentially have another counter-force involved: the forward momentum of the soul’s evolutionary enthusiasm. That’s the fingerprint of the north node.
 

At a solar eclipse, angelic forces have pulled their chairs up a little closer to the monitor, in other words. They’re watching you, and willing to pitch in with energetic “matching funds.”

 

By the way, some solar eclipses are aligned with the south node, others with the north node – either fits the celestial requirements.

 
Our next solar eclipse will occur on October 14, 2023. Sun, Moon, and the south node will all be in Libra. Any intentions you set then – be they low ones or lofty ones – have an extra charge of magic on them. The mindful path in this case would lie in renewing, purifying and deepening your relationship with Libran energy – the south node sign. Are you aware, for example, of any patterns that aren’t serving you well in your interactions with other humans? Visualize a better way – and if you need a hint about the exact nature of that better way, think of all the good qualities we associate with Aries – the north node sign. You might aim, for one example, to be more direct and more willing to risk conflict. Maybe you need to tilt the see-saw a little further in the direction of loving yourself rather than always feeling compelled to meet other people’s needs or expectations.
Libra isn’t just about relationships – perhaps at this next eclipse there’s a new creative beginning you need to make, or maybe it’s simply something about the basis of serenity in your life. Is there a source of trouble and stress that needs review? Maybe you need to deal with it in a more decisive Aries fashion.
Lunar eclipses, it is generally agreed, are not as big a deal as solar ones. Perhaps that’s because they don’t have that “magical intention” quality. They’re more about seeing the results of intentions – there’s that “put everything on the table” quality we observe with Full Moons. We’ll have a few more words about lunar eclipses in a moment.
Eclipses fit neatly into our general toolbox of astrological procedures. Start by thinking of Pluto transiting over your Sun – we know that will correlate with a Plutonian chapter of your life. But maybe Pluto is passing through a relatively dead zone of your chart. Then all’s quiet on the Pluto front. Eclipses work the same way – they’re a lot more impactful if they fall on a degree to which you’re sensitive.
The upcoming eclipse in October happens in a little over 21 degrees of Libra. Is that a hot spot for you? On April 8, 2024, a solar eclipse will sweep across North America, touching Mexico, the USA, and Canada. That one will happen in 19 degrees 23’ of Aries, with the north node nearby in Aries. Are you sensitive to that degree area?
 

You can Google upcoming solar eclipses and get a list of their dates. Set up a chart for that date, and the position of the Sun is the position of the eclipse. Most astrological calculation programs list them too.

 
Events that are planned for the ten days or so before a solar eclipse tend to be “eclipsed” by unexpected events – that’s an idea that I’ve seen attributed to astrologer Charles Jayne (1911-1985), and in my experience, it’s a principle worth noting. A classic illustration is the wedding of then-Prince Charles and Camilla. Their wedding was set for a few days before an eclipse, but the Pope died unexpectedly, and Charles needed to show the flag at the funeral, so the wedding was rescheduled. In my talk on April 27th, I mentioned me moving to California during the ten days before an eclipse – and things definitely not working out as I had expected.
Charles Jayne also stated that solar eclipses can have an effect up to three to six months before they occur and as long as a year afterward. I’m not sure what to make of that one. With that observation, I definitely move beyond the realm of my own strange relationship with eclipses.
There’s a lot of lore about how the degree in which the solar eclipse occurs becomes charged and can be triggered by later transits over it. Our immediately previous solar eclipse occurred in the final degree of Aries late on April 19 or early on April 20 of this year – the clock time depended on where you were on Earth. The idea is that the last degree of Aries now carries an extra charge and it awaits a transit to detonate it. We’ll soon have a chance to check that hypothesis because Jupiter will be transiting over that degree between May 12 and May 16.
Again, I emphasize that I’m mostly writing about an area where my own experience is limited. I’ll stand strongly by the efficacy of setting intentions at a solar eclipse, especially intentions that mindfully take into account the nodal tensions that give eclipses that extra charge of meaning. Beyond that, what I’ve just written is mostly speculation and the results of my reading rather than my own experience.
 

I have one final image to share with you. This one is, to me, incredibly beautiful and it’s as sound as a rock scientifically.

 
It’s about lunar eclipses. They all look different. Sometimes they involve the Moon getting so dark it nearly disappears (although it never fully does). Other times the Moon is clearly dimmed, but it’s still pretty bright. Most of the time it turns a kind of coppery red – those are the loveliest ones, I think. And there is a wide range of hues among them.
It’s those red lunar eclipses that I want to talk about. They can’t be predicted astrologically, by the way – you just have to go outside and look.
 
 
 
 
Remember – to have a lunar eclipse, Earth must stand between the Moon and Sun. That blocks the sunlight that normally gives us our monthly big, bright Full Moon. But Earth has an atmosphere and it operates like a lens – the light that’s faintly illuminating the eclipsed Moon has been bent around the Earth, passing through our atmosphere. If at that moment you were an astronaut on the Moon and you looked back at Earth, you’d see a ring of light around it. And if you were back on Earth at the same moment, but standing right under that ring of light, it would be sunrise or sunset for you – that ring of light marks the boundary between night and day.
Now think of the most glorious sunrises and sunsets you’ve ever seen. Notice how red and orange tones play such an essential role in them?
 

The light that illuminates the Moon during a lunar eclipse is the sum total of all the sunrises and sunsets happening on the Earth in that moment of time.

 
That’s what you’re actually seeing. I find that both amazing and beautiful beyond words.
Next time we have a lunar eclipse, if you’re blessed with clear weather and being on the side of the planet where the Moon is in the sky, go out and marvel at what you’re seeing – all of the sunrises and sunsets happening on Earth in a single moment!
 
Steven Forrest
May 2023

 

Counseling and Language

Counseling and Language

Master’s Musings, April 2023

Counseling and Language

 
“Yes I’ve heard this word. I think sociopaths use it in an attempt to discredit the notion of empathy.”
– John Cleese on ‘Snowflakes’
 
Steven Forrest
One of our students wrote me an email praising my work and our school, but challenging me about some of the rougher language and metaphors I use – sexual imagery, street words, edgy  cliches, and so forth. I could tell it took a lot of courage for her to criticize me that way and I genuinely appreciated her openness. I responded to her privately, but I also realized that perhaps she’s not alone. The subject seemed appropriate for a newsletter, so here we go.
By the way, I’m not going to mention the student’s name. The area I’m about to explore is charged with strong emotions on both sides. While I suspect there are many who would agree with her, I also fear there would be those who might leap to my defense, which could potentially be hurtful to her if I named her. In the FCEA, we welcome diversity, but we also naturally value unity and mutual respect. That’s how we walk our talk.
Let me begin in a broad way. I teach astrological theory. That’s pretty obvious. But underlying my teaching is another set of theories – ones about teaching itself. As you’ll see, that’s really the heart of matter here.
Everyone is welcome in the school. People who are here for reasons of personal growth or even just interest are an important part of our community. But there’s a special place in my heart for the students who aim to become active evolutionary astrologers – that means counselors who support people in their communities as they try to thread their way through life’s emotional labyrinths. Being good at that work starts with knowing astrological techniques, but it’s about counseling work too – and deep astrology really pushes people’s emotional buttons. We have to be ready for that.
The astrological counseling room triggers a lot of very strong emotions, strongly expressed. For example, people who’ve been abandoned, used exploitatively, or victimized can understandably be extremely explosive as you create a space to explore those experiences authentically with them. They’ll sometimes say scary, extreme things. They’ll use language you wouldn’t want to explain to a child – you can fill in the blanks here, I’m sure. In a nutshell, in teaching my methods, I aim to desensitize my students to that kind of charged talk. For one example, in the heat of the moment, a client might use words like “bitch” or “bastard” to characterize someone who’s just broken their heart. Picture someone going through a Pluto transit to their Venus, for example – there’s perhaps an agonizing present-life event, but its tendrils reach down into prior life experiences too. They’ve been sitting on an emotional volcano, in other words, and it’s time for it to erupt. At that moment, if the astrologer’s body language conveys shock or judgment, it’s a catastrophe. As astrologers, we simply have to get used to that kind of situation.
If a socially-conservative person comes to you for a reading and uses a word like “girls” for women or characterizes a fight among females as a “catfight,” it’s the same situation – we may object to their language, but we can’t let that objection get in the way of our real aim, which is to help this soul make the best of whatever life has dished up for them in that moment. We should, in other words, never let our own personal values and opinions get in the way of maintaining that precious bridge of rapport with the client. It’s really hard sometimes! But as professional astrological counselors, we always have to be ready to truly embrace human diversity and the powerful emotions that go along with it – and to receive our clients into our hearts with unconditional positive regard no matter what they sound like.
That sounds good! I doubt there’s anyone in the school who would argue against it. But my point is that getting good at that kind of non judgmental emotional steadiness is not something we come out of our mothers knowing how to do. It’s one of the skills that counselors need to learn. And that’s why, in my teaching, my language and imagery can sometimes be edgy.
Referring to one of our question and answer Zoom sessions, the student who wrote to me felt uncomfortable when I spoke of a time, years ago, when a former Playboy centerfold model came to me for a reading. In that Q & A, I mentioned how I was nervous that I might find myself “staring at her breasts” instead of at her chart. That comment was apparently “triggering” for this student.
That session with the model actually went very well, and my fears about my own behavior fortunately proved to be unfounded. But I’m glad I knew myself well enough to be aware in advance of the legitimacy of those fears! Few of us are evolved enough to not be impacted by our own sexuality. We have to be mindful of that. Obviously, overt sexual expression has no place in the counseling room, but that doesn’t mean we can ignore those energies. I felt good about mentioning my own experience with that model. We have some younger heterosexual males in our program and I wanted to offer them some non-shaming support and guidance – and I hoped that with a modicum of imagination, our female and LGBTQ students could get some guidance there too.
Sexual energy in the counseling room is a big subject and one anecdote isn’t sufficient to address it – but I hope I made a start. I’ve been speaking of unconditional positive regard for our clients – let’s reserve some for ourselves too!
The subject of astrological counsel is a continent and in this newsletter we’ve barely put our feet on the shore. Going a little further up the beach, let me just say that some of the most intense moments of my life have been spent in the presence of people recovering from rape and war and other forms of violent intrusion. Talk about volcanic emotions! I’ve struggled personally with some extremely graphic revelations about unusual sexual conduct. Hearing about stomach-churning physical conditions is particularly hard for me, but it’s part of the work too.
Some of what I’ve explored here ranges beyond the issues that the student raised with me, but it’s all about the raw realities of astrological counseling. It’s about where our work inevitably overlaps with psychotherapy. And it all comes down to accepting people where they actually are.
In my mind, the FCEA is a fully professional school. To me, that means that I need to help my students be prepared for the world they’ll actually face as professionals. I feel it would be a terrible failure on my part if I didn’t do that. That means that I promise to sometimes “push your buttons” as my clients have pushed mine for the past fifty years.
 
Steven Forrest
April 2023

 

FCEA Scholarship Opportunities

FCEA Scholarship Opportunities

Dean’s Update, April 2023

Scholarship Opportunities

 
Catie Cadge
April is a busy month at the FCEA. We have six classes in operation at three levels of instruction!  A special congratulations to those students who recently graduated from the apprentice level last month and our advanced craftspeople who have now embarked on the 300-level. Way to go! I also wish to give a shout out to the 101B grads who are now starting 102B. We are so impressed by everyone’s growing skill set and devotion to study, along with the spirit of community you all bring to the school. We are so grateful!
 
I have some long-awaited news to share about our scholarship opportunities this year. We have been receiving questions about financial aid practically since the first day the FCEA has opened. It has been tough for Steven, myself and our staff because so many are in need and we, of course, wish to help. The problem is the school’s limited resources. We are just now gradually moving ahead with our very first scholarship application process to try to alleviate even just a small fraction of this hardship experienced by so many. Thank you for your patience!
 
Here is the scoop:

 

  • There will be a scholarship application and selection process.
  • Full instructions will be posted under the “Learn” tab on the FCEA website by late May.
  • We will be offering a limited number of scholarships providing the awarded students a full tuition waiver from the time of the award until masters certification, as long as they are actively enrolled at the FCEA.
  • All students are eligible to apply.
  • Scholarship rewards are not retroactive and only apply to coursework not yet attempted by the student.
  • Scholarships require the student to successfully pass their coursework in each class. 
 
There are two types of scholarships at the FCEA: a needs-based award in response to a student’s financial hardship and a diversity scholarship intended to support students from historically marginalized and/or oppressed communities worldwide. Let me share the descriptions:
 
The FCEA NEEDS-BASED SCHOLARSHIP:
 
The FCEA recognizes that in order to create the best in an astrological education, a student body must be inclusive of those with limited resources or financial support. This full scholarship will be awarded to the person whom our scholarship committee deems to be the most promising aspiring student who is in need of financial assistance in covering tuition at the FCEA.
 
The FCEA DIVERSITY SCHOLARSHIP:
 
The FCEA is committed to promoting diversity in our student body in terms of race, ethnicity, age, gender, gender preference and the inclusion of other underrepresented groups in education and in the professional field of astrology. The scholarship committee seeks to award candidates with a full scholarship who contribute to a diverse student body and who help build a more inclusive learning experience at the FCEA.
The number of students chosen will depend upon the school’s growth and financial position at the time of application. Students will be chosen once a year by our Scholarship Selection Committee by August 1st. June 15 to July 15 is the date window for submitting an application. Again, please refer to our website for complete application directions in late May.
 
We wish we could offer support to all applicants, but, of course, the selection process will be competitive. Every effort will be made to make the selection process fair. We ask all students to realize the school can only do what it has resources to do.
 
We strive to serve all our students with the best education in evolutionary astrology. And we hope to make our online campus diverse and supportive of those in need. Hopefully, the inauguration of our scholarship program will be a great asset for the whole FCEA community in the years ahead.
 
Catie Cadge, PhD
April 2023
 
 
 

Study Group Survey Results Are In!

Study Group Survey Results Are In!

Dean’s Update, March 2023

Our Study Group Survey Results Are In!


Catie Cadge
Blessings on the March equinox, FCEA community! Vernal equinox here in the Northern Hemisphere starts a new cycle of life, new beginnings. Astrologers call the day of the Sun’s entrance into Aries “International Astrology Day.” Can you think of a better New Year for all of us to share!?
Claim some Aries fire and initiative, and have courage in yourself and your direction, and your flower will open, as Steven likes to tell us. Well, some of the Aries spark for the FCEA involves planting new seeds and working our soil with new goals and aspirations. The equinox on March 20th occurs at 2:24 pm Pacific time at 00°0’ Aries in the school’s 11th house, conjunct Chiron, in the FCEA birthchart. Welcome to spring! And to our Southern Hemisphere students, love to you in the new season.
Reassessing the format and future of the FCEA study group calls is one seed we hope to plant in the weeks ahead. We are so grateful for the student feedback we received from you through our recent survey. The results are so helpful as we strive to improve our current Zoom calls and also discuss and consider options for change. Thank YOU for your participation and sharing your thoughts! I also want to thank our tutor, Patty Morris-Stebbins, and our registrar, Penelope Love, for creating and implementing the Study Group call survey. Great job, Patty and Penelope!
I’d like to share with you a summary of the survey results. Students who responded were roughly split between the apprentice, 100-level, and the craftsperson, 200-level, groups. Let’s start with what seems to be working for students: length of the calls, Tuesday as a meetup day and the time of day we currently schedule all received the most positive feedback in comparison to other dates and time options.
In addition, students were asked about whether they preferred the current format for our study group calls and by far the majority liked the set up as it is. Only 16.7% commented that they did not like the current format. So, this is good news!
Most students prefer chart interpretation in small groups (breakout rooms) and a brief tutor-led Q and A when call participants reconvene or within the breakout room itself. This again reinforces that the current study groups are working well, given this is the structure we now have in place. Most pleasing for me to read was how so many students appreciate the sense of community the study group calls provide and the connections they make with their peers.
The area students express a need for improvement is having a tutor consistently in the breakout rooms. Unfortunately, we have limited staff to work these calls. And though we strive to have some tutor availability as much as possible in each room, we are not able to accommodate students this way in the current structure. Read on and you will see our suggestion for change.


So how do we now till our soil and plant our Aries “seed” into fresh directions?
 
Clearly, the current format is working, but we are growing as a school and cannot maintain this structure as we expand in size. We welcome growth! But how best to move ahead? We are currently implementing a new social platform, Circle, to partly cover our needs. But live interaction with tutor-led Q and A requires a lab.
Late last year, we began offering 101-Z, a lab class to accommodate 100-level students who preferred live interaction and Q and A with a tutor. A 201-Z will be the next step. This would provide a similar focused tutor-led cohort for advanced study. The additional tuition for these lab sections would allow us to support the on-going tutor Zoom interaction some students want. (Please note: Z courses are not currently listed in the Course Catalog; registration information is provided during our guided course orientations.) In the meantime, study group calls will be used primarily as a form of social engagement, following the original intention of the calls. Q and A with instruction will continue to occur on monthly calls with our master teacher Steven Forrest and through the 101-Z and 201-Z labs.
Slowly we plan to implement these changes, developing our Circle community and opening a 201-Z lab by summer, 2023. Look for these new developments in the months ahead. Equinox joy to all!
 
Catie Cadge, PhD
March 2023
 
 
 

Evidence-Based Astrology

Evidence-Based Astrology

Master’s Musings, March 2023

Evidence-Based Astrology

 
Steven ForrestAstrology’s detractors love to pooh-pooh what we do by rolling out the old canard that there is no scientific evidence for astrology. That is simply not true. There’s actually plenty of evidence for it – but like the evidence for reincarnation, psychic phenomena, unexplained aerial phenomena, and so on, there are always people who would rather ignore the facts than have their pet theory of the universe challenged in any way. For some reason, astrology always seems like catnip for that crowd.
 
If you’re interested, my book 2016 book The Night Speaks explores some of the science behind astrology, both from a statistical perspective and from the physical sciences, where there is plenty of objective evidence of celestial/terrestrial correlations – proof that clams open and close and the bioelectric fields of trees flux, all in response to the Moon’s position, for example. 
Of all the statistical studies of astrology, probably the most well-known is the work of Michel and Francoise Gauquelin, done way back in the 1950s. Using thousands of hand-calculated charts, they proved, for one example, that Mars tended to be in more prominent positions in the charts of professional athletes than in control groups of the general population. The Gauquelins soon ran afoul of the infamous CSICOP – the self-appointed “Committee for the Study of Claims of the Paranormal,” which actually attempted to falsify – not disprove, but actually falsify – their robust evidence. CSICOP was caught in the act. One scientist, with a slight degree of hyperbole, called it “the biggest scandal in the history of rationalism.” If you’re interested in that story, have a look at The Night Speaks – or even better, see if you can find the Gauquelins’ book, Birth Times. 
The Night Speaks first came out in 1993. There was a new edition in 2016, but all of the scientific material in it stayed the same as it was in the first edition. The truth of it is that I didn’t have anything more than a cursory, amateur’s interest in the pursuit of a scientific proof of astrology – I was busy enough with other perspectives. But the search for that particular Holy Grail has continued without my help. Hats off to David Cochrane, a former president of ISAR, and a devoted astrological researcher. If you’d like to be up to date with the current state of statistical astrological research, I would encourage you to let David be your doorway. Here’s a good place to start: https://www.astrologer.com/cochrane  As you explore that website, you’ll discover that David and his colleagues have found solid evidence of astrological correlations with bipolar disorder and alcoholism, for just a couple of examples.
I applaud what they are doing. How could I not? They are making new astrological discoveries that can help us help our clients. Undoubtedly, they’ll also knock the stilts out from under some astrological shibboleths, which are rife in our field. We’re a funny mixture of astute human observations along with traditions passed down uncritically over innumerable generations. I mean, do Scorpios and Cancers really get along automatically because there’s a 120 degree angle between them? How true is that, even though you’ll read it in every Sun Sign book? Is Jupiter always lucky? Does the 12th house always bring misfortune?
 

Astrology is a vast field – a classic “big tent” situation. One of my favorite lines is that I have never met an astrologer who was practicing the second-best kind of astrology that he or she had ever encountered. Naturally we all find the system that works best for us personally and which excites us the most. For me, that’s obviously been evolutionary astrology. For some it’s the historical forms of the craft. And for some it’s the pursuit of irrefutable astrological facts as they emerge in statistical analysis. 

 
 
Bless us all – but with that enthusiasm and excitement, there often comes partisanship and the desire to make everybody else’s system wrong. I guess that’s what makes the world go ‘round, but that kind of intolerance has never brought out the best in anyone. That’s the main thing I want to address in this newsletter.
I hope that I have made myself clear – I embrace the astrological researchers and I am grateful for what they are doing. As some of you perhaps know, my first (unpublished) book actually was about such a project. Back right after I finished college, I’d been working on a study for the National Institute of Mental Health. In a flagrant abuse of your tax dollars, I was able to sneak-peek a correlation of people’s Sun Signs with their personality profiles. I got statistically significant results in many cases, and I wrote a book about it. In classic Jupiter fashion, the fact that my efforts were never accepted for publication was among “the best things that ever happened to me,” even though it didn’t feel that way at the time. If it had gone to print, I would have been branded as a statistical researcher, and that simply was not my path.
 
 

Lately, I’ve heard some scuttlebut…

 
 
Lately, I’ve heard some scuttlebutt about a few “evidence-based” astrologers dismissing evolutionary astrology for its alleged lack of an empirical basis. The last thing I want to do is to get into an argument with those people – as I’ve said, astrological researchers have my enthusiastic support. But in what remains of this newsletter, I want to arm you against any such attacks you might encounter.
The first response I would suggest is what I’ve been saying all along – God bless us one and all. We welcome any new evidence or insights into our sacred craft. To all of you evidence-based astrologers, thank you for your hard work. Show us what you’ve got.
Beyond that, let me say that there is a basic problem with all such statistical astrological research. It’s far from a reason not to do that kind of work, nor is it insurmountable, but it needs to be understood clearly. Here it is: every astrological configuration interacts creatively and unpredictably with the consciousness of the individual. What happens in life is not simply a function of the astrological configuration – it’s about the response the individual makes to it. Thus, every symbol in astrology represents a spectrum of possibilities. They are moving targets, in other words. That makes them hard to pin down statistically.
 
 

Here’s a specific example of what I’m talking about.

 
 
I read a study once which described a correlation between alcoholism and Moon-Neptune oppositions. (My apologies that I can’t give you a citation on it – I don’t remember, but I think I read it in The Mountain Astrologer.)  No surprise there though – it’s easy to believe in such a correlation. In fact, a warning about escapism in general would be part of any competent evolutionary astrologer’s analysis of such a Moon-Neptune chart.
But think of all the people with Moon-Neptune oppositions who are avid, tea-totalling meditators. Or visionary artists. Or animators. Or interpreters of dreams. Or filmmakers. Or pharmacists. Or ayahuasqueros. Or deep-sea sailors. Or sommeliers. Or hallucinating psychotics. Or fine actors. Or shamans.
The list of possibilities is long, in other words. That’s what I mean by “moving targets.” This is what makes statistical studies of astrology so hard – the drunken Moon-Neptune types are definitely in there, but the presence of these other equally Moon-Neptune types blurs the numbers, and makes any “this means that” kind of astrological analysis extraordinarily difficult.
 
 

Then there’s a point that is obvious to any practicing astrologer.

 
 
We all know that nothing in a chart ever operates in a vacuum. The planets all flavor each other. Mercury may be Mercury, but my Mercury and yours operate differently – unless the rest of your chart is the same as mine, and not even really then. At the risk of very minor over-simplification, no chart is ever repeated exactly. Statistics, by definition, only have meaning when you have a large number of cases against which to compare your hypotheses. Here’s where that line of reasoning goes – if, say, you could find 2000 people with Steven Forrest’s chart, how many of them would have turned out to be astrologers? 
Start with the problem that you cannot find 2000 people with my chart, and from there proceed to the problem that even if you could, there are many other paths I (or they) could have gone down, some high, some low – and that whole diverse range of possible lives would be reflected in that population of “Steven Forrests” (even though it doesn’t really exist in the first place.)
I say all of this not as a criticism of astrological researchers, but in sympathy with them. What they are doing is very difficult.
 
 

Let’s go a step further.

 
 
Earlier this year, David Cochrane published his book, The Astrology of Bipolar Disorder. You can get it on Amazon. He’s smart, competent, and honest. I am sure his work is solid. I’ve not gotten around to reading it yet myself, but I will – and I know it will make me a better astrologer. How? If I see his diagnostic patterns for bipolar disorder in the chart of a client, I will be alerted to that possibility – but I will also know that there are other possibilities. Would I even say to the client “I see a chance of bipolar disorder in your chart?.” I doubt it – that would sow unnecessary, and perhaps totally ungrounded, seeds of anxiety. Instead, I’d emphasize the higher ground and how to get there. I might make vague reference to “mental instability” as one possible result of not striving for the higher ground – and I really believe that. That’s because the very heart of evolutionary astrology lies in that kind of thinking. We can’t control the universe, but we can certainly take a high degree of personal responsibility for how we embody our charts.
 
 

One final thought.

 
 
If an evidence-based astrologer gets on your case for the apparent “lack of evidence” for evolutionary astrology, here’s the best response I know. Start with the notion that full-power astrology must always be based on the full, individual, unrepeatable birthchart. As we have seen, that’s hard to study statistically, but there is a way: unleash thousands of astrologers, all practicing different methods, on a large human population. Stand back and watch for twenty years or so. See which astrologers have clients coming back to them year after year, recommending them to their friends, and trusting them with their children. 
That’s your test. Crowdsource your answer, in other words. Use a sample of millions of people. That’s how we can compare different astrological theories in the real world of actual human beings with their full birthcharts. People know if the astrologer is speaking to them in a helpful, resonant way – or not. And that is a far harder test to pass than proving that Venus in Libra means your favorite color is green or any such thing.
That is the test that evolutionary astrology has been passing ever more wisely and spectacularly over the past fifty years or so. That’s your answer. That’s your evidence for any “evidence-based” astrologer who’s trying to shame you or disrespect the work we do because we “don’t have numbers to prove it.”
Just look. We do have the numbers.
 
Steven Forrest
March 2023

 

A New Structure for Our Q&A Calls

A New Structure for Our Q&A Calls

Master’s Musings, February 2023

A New Structure for Our Q&A Calls

 
Steven Forrest
As most of you have probably deduced by now, the Forrest Center for Evolutionary Astrology is a work in progress. We’re proud and excited about what we’ve accomplished so far, but we’re always open to feedback and willing to grow in new directions if they seem like good ideas. After some conversations with Catie and Penelope, we’ve decided to make a change in the format of my Zoom calls, both the ones for enrolled students and the four we do each year for our Community Members (you can find the details about FCEA Membership here). 
We’ll still call for questions and chart submissions in advance, as we always have. But we’ll limit ourselves either to twelve questions or one hour of time, whichever comes first. That’ll leave one more hour for a chart reading plus a period of more spontaneous, free-form questions and answers. With the chart reading, I won’t be a slave to the clock, but I’ll aim for something in the neighborhood of thirty minutes, with the rest of the time wide-open for a conversation.
The Member Call on February 6th is what prompted these changes. Here’s the story – we got only three questions submitted in advance, along with, I think, seventeen charts. I only plan to do one chart reading, but three questions wasn’t enough to fill the time, so Penelope put out an S.O.S. – and the Community Members responded . . . overwhelmingly. Suddenly we had twenty-one questions, all of them juicy, interesting ones – and of course many more chart submissions as well.
This is a good time for me to bang what is perhaps becoming a familiar drum – the odds of you getting a question answered are pretty good while the odds against your chart being chosen are not! We ended up with thirty-three charts and only one to be chosen – I bet you can do the math in your head.
Anyway, I’ve always tried to answer all the questions, but with twenty-one of them, it was a challenge. The gods and goddesses intervened though – the chart submission wasn’t really about an interpretation, it was about Mean vs True lunar nodes, so it only took me a few minutes to respond to it. Bottom line: we got through all the questions, plus the chart, and only went a few minutes over our allotted two hours.
But the whole thing felt rushed and out of balance – and that’s what prompted Catie, Penelope and me to come up with this new format.
We very much encourage you to continue to submit questions – and there’s no need to be shy about submitting charts either, so long as you remember those long odds. If we get ten or twelve questions, I’ll very likely have time to respond to all of them. If we get more than that, we’ll have to make some decisions about which ones are of the most potential benefit to everyone. 
One point is pretty clear there – in the past, we’ve gotten a lot of “thinly disguised” chart questions masquerading as general questions . . . for example, what if the Sun is in Aquarius and the 7th house, with Venus in Pisces in the 8th house quincunx Jupiter in Leo in the 1st house, which is square Neptune . . . ? In the future, those kinds of questions will be prime candidates for the chopping block – although if we are short of questions, I’ll still try to answer them as best I can.
 

So, from now on, we do twelve questions or one hour, whichever comes first – then we move on to leisurely stroll through some dimensions of an actual chart. And finally, somewhere between fifteen and thirty minutes of free-form Q&A. 

 
I really look forward to that part – it always feels very alive and immediate, and many of the comments are follow-ups on the chart or the earlier technical questions. That makes for good continuity. So why not simply forget about submitting questions in advance and just do everything that way? Lots of reasons! For one, while I can answer most of the questions pretty well off the top of my head, for some of them I need to do a little research. Someone, for example, wants an example of a person who had a certain configuration. Or sometimes I get a question about a branch of astrology with which I’m actually not familiar and I have to look something up – that’s one reason not to just do the sessions spontaneously. Here’s another – I’m guessing we’ll often have more questions than I can answer in an hour, so I’ll need to curate them. Finally, I like to organize the questions by topic and that requires some work in advance too.
So, welcome to the new Q&A format – sixty minutes of questions submitted in advance, about thirty of the interpretation of a single chart, and another thirty of potluck conversation.
See you there!
 
Steven Forrest
February 2023